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Mudwiggling through 2020

Great finds Mudwiggle definitely a fancy ring, I really would love to find one of those early regiment buttons. Well done mate.

In the evil salty ooze again yesterday…

Got home, emptied the pouch:

Found some interesting bits inside





all that stuff in my pockets would have pulled my pants down. then it wouldnt have been the detector swing from side to side. reminds me of elephant hunting in africa but that story can wait

Back in the mode mate
That dog reg is one of my favourite finds as for the trigger guard… As LL would say jellyarse😎

I spy with my little eye what may be your best treasure in the first photo with everything in a heap and if it is what I think it is I am indeed jellyarse. No prizes for the astute observer who identifies it. If I remember, remember, remember I shall identify it before too long if no one else picks it but it is a true gem - and yet appears to be nothing spectacular. Because I cant see it properly I may be wrong but I am pretty sure it is what I think it is none the less.

Hint - it has something to do with dustbins.

@Lammerlaw I’ll get one with a reed one day. (Been many years since I heard “Dustbin” :grin: )

The item is associated with the word ‘Dustbin’ and is a very interesting item of historical interest. In fact I would much rather have found it than a silver ring - I wont go so far as to say gold ring!

I’m confuzzled then… If it ain’t the harp? (Based on good ol London slang)

Under it…20 characters required! Look under the harp.

Okay, now you got me curious (he said as he tried to make the 20 characters…)


Yes that is it - in my opinion the very best antique projectile you have ever found or likely to find. It is the projectile from a very early Adams revolver ‘Dustbin Cartridge’ - it dates to the American Civil War and the Maori Wars and was made for the Model 1851 Adams and 1854 Adams revolvers.

Some references for you which I found last night

A complete one at $200 US or about $300 NZ - note that this dealer has never had a complete one

Note the price being asked for this well weathered one $65 US or $100 NZ

The guns below are the specific revolvers that they were made for -

1851 Adams.

Beaumont Adams


I have ever only seen one or maybe two in the collection of an old guy and other than his I have never seen another so that is how scarce it is. A great find, Treasure it as you are not likely to find another. Your very best projectile.


Wonder who’s digging through the sinker box right now😂

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Bugger… Bugger bugger bugger…


@Lammerlaw Heh, all good - I learnt a long time ago not to trash anything until it’s positively identified as purest junk. Safe and sound…


I could hear your wails from the other end of the country!


I love it - great items and now they need little labels especially the little projectile - otherwise someone might throw it in the dustbin!

Another great hunt looks a fab site treasures aplenty

As an aside, re: the pic of the Tranter… I noted this

What’s your opinion on these (I’ve dug several in areas with a lot of pistol evidence)

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The tin in the case is merely a push on top tin and would rot away in the soil as fast as a bean can. It is a Japanned tin with shellac on it and normally holds percussion caps and occasionally whale grease for greasing the bullets so all chambers of the gun dont go off at once - which could be disastrous.

Your top is a new one to me and certainly is not part of an old pistol or gun cased accessory to the b est of my knowledge and I have seen a few of them in my life. It looks as though it may be a pewter top for something but what I do not know.

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Nice one mudwigle! Some great finds! I just just checked the lead box and found these three all different sizes? Something for ll to look at?

Hell 3 chicken teeth… Did you no what they were before this discussion? Pretty cool history