Southerlies 2020 and misc

It’s the right track…A Coach bolt has a hexagonal head, this is square.I had a huge discussion about this here. More specifically a smithed iron carriage bolt, not necessarily used for carriages.

Just for fun see if you can count the threads per inch see if you can id where it came from my guess would be rail track no washes may never been used

If you can count threading you are doing well, last picture to show the squaring off at the other end.

I am not sure it is long enough for a rail pin at 12-13 cms

I am not so sure where they might be on a rail as the lines were attached to rails by large screw in bolts that never had nuts on the end and the rials were attach together by machine bolts that were about 5cm long from memory.

This link appears to be relevant


After reading this I am thinking, night soil trench rather than long drop. They did have a night soil collection on this street so possibly also individual remedies for when you forgot to put it out.

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I can remember as a kid visiting my grand parents they had a big hole in the back yard for rubbish. every thing but compost was put in it . every now and then granddad would have a fire down it. my section on the coast is covered in rubbish if you run the detector over it . I was told there is meant to be a landrover there some where. found an old engineers vice one day
as for the coach bolt . a coach bot has a dome or cheese head with a bolt type head under . used in heavier construction of timber eg bridges. chassis for coaches and later car trailers. heaps round over here I think I posted one on west coast stories a couple of months ago .
getting cramp in my finger better stop typing

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Wondering if this is a clay pipe part…It was found just above the geology close to the concrete near the house (that was put in 1940s/60s I have been digging at (I have enlarged the trench to fill it with gravel from the aforementioned original garage site). I include a pick of the contents of the object with 4 tobacco (cut like today) looking strands in it that may or may not be and may or may not have been originally in it. Object is heavy ish for size but not metal heavy, looks like a man (head missing) holding a long beard. raised bits on it (still dirty bits) make no sense to me, a chemical reaction to what it was sitting in (night soil?)?


The material looks too much like fineporcelain to be a clay pipe part as clay pipes are invariably a cream colour. I have found many hundreds of parts there of and a couple only complete ones but never any that colour.

Did they do porcelain pipes, as it seems like a lot of bother to make it hollow if it’s a kid’s toy. Circa 1900 owner (we are not sure of the original date it was built but some evidence suggests earlier) was a watersider, so it was a working man’s cottage, I am not sure if fine porcelain figurines for decoration fits the profile.

And guess the era of this bottle of Watties Tomato Sauce (with Sauce in it) that I dug up.
I didn’t find any usual era clues such as 1 pint versus mls.
Any one want it?

I have seen miscellaneous small items that were indeed hollow porcelain. In fact they are very commonand still made today as seen here.

I think I have quite a bit of this stuff myself hidden in the assorted crap, shit, rubbish and so on - I dont collect them and not interested but have them somewhere. I havent seen them for thirty or forty years. I also have no idea where they came from.

The tomato sauce bottle is certainly within my era and who in hell would want to collect me! I dont think it would be collectible to any other than a very specialist collector, say one who collects tomato sauce bottles and containers from year dot up to the present.

I am only guessing but maybe 1970s? I am sure that I have seen these bottles but how long ago I have no idea.

Looks like a high water content, I was being witty (or so I thought) with the offer, but if there’s a taker I’ll oblige, can’t imagine it tasting good. Near the same height as a 1949 Wgtn Artesian water bottle dump (easy to date from the point where they stamped the year on the bottom), so it’s maybe 50 year old sauce. Yuk!

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Out the back of the same property I dug the test pit in, in an area (thanks to partially digitised archives) a council inspector had described as a dilapidated unconsented garage and rubbish pile (and ordered it be deconstructed and cleaned up), in the 1960s, under 40 cms of mixed material, and at times straight gravel, was what I had suspected…The whole area pinged and some inhabitant had even buried old tools a full metre down, so I knew it would be rich, some highlights of life in the 1920s/1930s for a working class family attached…

1 oz weight W & T Avery

Somewhat more baffling as the inhabitant, during WW1, though conscripted (as stated in a 1917 publication) was a Class C (married with 2 kids) conscript and I cannot find his military file so dont think he travelled. …Equipments Militaires Button, apparently from a French military Bread Bag from WW1 and buried at a level at which it does not seem likely someone went shopping at Comrades and dropped it in the garden and with other items of age (ie, under the dilapidated first garage), so likely from the first owner or, rather, someone associated with him (inhabitant from first mention until death (actually in the house) in 1943) but then again, this area had been subject to great and intrusive human activity (landscaping) over 100 years…

Bottles for Africa and they are still coming …Brands include:
Sanitarium Health Food
Thos Symington & Co Ltd
Masons OK Sauce
Brown Barrett’s
Thompson & Hills Ltd. Auckland’Holbrooks & Co.
My faves, the 1920s art deco looking bottle with the bevelled edges and the intact (!!) black top & the little 2 Flozs bottle (for ? cream).

Lost marbles (love the funny shaped large clear one)…

Part of a Terracotta kids toy (note the not so modern dress (and hair if that’s a guy))

Ammunition… rimfire 22 shells and 303 ammo from CAC (Colonial Ammo Company), numbering is hard to read and I think one has II, the other barely legible. These came from spill dug out when the new garage was built (on the edge of the old garage). We kind of find it odd that someone has collected spent 22 shells, seems OTT to pick them up as you shoot any theories on that behavior?

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.22 be Ramset ™ blanks.

Thanks. Only dirt inside now. Maybe he stuffed them in his pocket after Homeguard training to give to his son?

It would be impossible to tell if it is a ramset blank. It looks too old for that. Original ramset blanks were cut down .303 cartridges. .22 cal blanks go back a very long way indeed and far before ramset and although most were crimped over a thin wad it was not long before star crimped ones came into existence.

If the headstamp is readibly then it might be easier to identify. Blanks were made for a variety of reasons ranging from Athletics race starting, military exercises, theatricala nd movie application and it was not until later that they were developed for industrial use.

The industrial use ones were not recommended for pistols or rifles as they were much more powerful and could possible do some firearms a mischief.

Photo doesn’t come up well, says X with super across it, so Winchester?